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 Post subject: The Next EU Influx.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:19 pm 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21002988

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Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has warned that an "influx" of Romanians and Bulgarians would add to the existing housing problems in the UK.
But he refused to give an estimate of the numbers of people who might move to Britain after getting the right to live and work in the UK in December.


The man is a pillok I saw this programme. Pickles says 'I've not seen any numbers!' then 2 minutes later said 'He's not confident in any numbers' then 2 minutes later says 'He's seen all the numbers but can't be confident that they are correct.'

Neil asks 'Without giving a number do the numbers worry you?' Pickles just repeats 'He's not confident in the numbers'
You will be pleased to know this is his own Department providing the numbers and this is less than a year away.

By feck those numbers must be scaring him...........

The Romanians are already exploiting the UK system in terms of the numbers who are selling the Big Issue throughout UK cities (a recent court ruling classified this as 'self employment' allowing them to claim tax credits and child benefit).

Theresa May was asked in October what the Government intended to do about this potential influx from December 2013. She gave a weak poorly thought through response.

We are now 3 months closer to the event and Pickles as a Government spokesman is just as clueless.

I am truly concerned that we will be faced with a different level of immigrant behaviour come the influx of the Romanians and Bulgarians, and they will not be confined to London. No city will be immune if the diaspora of Romanian Big Issue sellers is anything to go by.

Successive Governments have not protected the British population and society from these immigration waves, and seem to be sleep walking into the next wave, despite the current mia culpa emanating from certain Labour politicians.

It is always a case of talking about closing the stable doors after the event.

But on the brighter front the powers that be are really worried that the EU referendum train is running away. This weekend we have had Heseltine (remember him?) saying the will of the British people matters not and the BBC (biased as ever) tearing the arse out of the 'we must stay in debate'

I saw Nigel Farage on Sky giving the alternate view but not on the BBC.

But to have the likes of the Obama administration and Hesletine amongst many others going on the record condemning a UK pullout shows they are getting really concerned.


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:11 am 
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The constant influx of immigrants to the UK is all part of the globalist plan to change the culture of Briton, to destabilise and render us impotent.


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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The very suggestion the people would even consider a withdrawal from the EU, is sending shivers up the spine of those on the gravy train in SW1, their reaction will be to dilute even further the English spirit with more and more promises of a better life, to the disenchanted of Europe, to come and share what generations of true Brits have built, and fought for, Hitler could not do it, so now our very own Government has turned on us, it will happen as the will to fight for our own independence has slowly but surely been drained from us, we are slowly but surely being diluted into a mish mash of cultures that does not have a common purpose, the Commonwealth was the first to go, any special relationship we have with the USA will be next, slowly slowly we are getting overloaded with bodies sharing out what we have worked for, with a voting right for it to continue, as as usual the true Brits wont wake up until its too late, and yet again will be caught napping, I personally am very lucky as being over 80 wont be around, just as many readers were not around when we was at war, and with the sacrifice of many Commonwealth, American, and Englishmen who fought and died to keep us free, now we have a mish mash of administration rushing to go tits up to give away the sacrifice so many have made. :o :? :o :(

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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:27 pm 
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Tory support is bleeding quite profusely to UKIP.

Expect much more pandering towards the idea of a referendum without actually going so far as to promise or deliver one.

CMD is expected to say we will get one after the next election. Call me cynical if you like but frankly the Tories have no chance of winning it. What then? Can we expect the good looking one from the Wallace and Grommit Westminster bubble to deliver?

I think not and they have an excellent 'get out'. They will say the Tories lost as there was no appetite amongst the electorate for a referendum.

Could UKIP grab seats at Westminster? Very doubtful in the first past the post system.


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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Well to be honest we have become so blaze, some 40% plus dont even bother to vote, they still believe it cant happen in England! I also agree UKIP cant win it, as its only the disenchantment from the mainstream they have going for them, and the average Brit thinks all the problems are somebody else's and somebody else will fix them, for us to wake up and see whats happening, we always need a war the mind boggles! reminds me of my Dad who often said to me, how do I always find time to do a job twice? but never enough time to it once properly? sums it up realy. :( :(

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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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jim wrote:
Well to be honest we have become so blaze, some 40% plus dont even bother to vote, they still believe it cant happen in England! I also agree UKIP cant win it, as its only the disenchantment from the mainstream they have going for them, and the average Brit thinks all the problems are somebody else's and somebody else will fix them, for us to wake up and see whats happening, we always need a war the mind boggles! reminds me of my Dad who often said to me, how do I always find time to do a job twice? but never enough time to it once properly? sums it up realy. :( :(


The last time we had a recession/depression even approaching this level of magnitude it took a World War to kick off manufacturing output to get us out of the hole.

What chance this time?

I suppose without the EU (and no one can deny it has been successful in this regard) we would be lobbing bombs at the French or Germans by now and vice versa. The economic situation has already gone past the point where most Countries would have instigated trade protection sanctions and as we know from bitter experience these are the pre-curser for war!!

An excellent case for being part of Europe and its trade agreements without being in Europe.


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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I do believe that world wars are obsolete, at least between nuclear powers, we have been fighting economic wars for some time now, and any future war, will be economic, and we have already lost that, the amazing thing for every winner there has to be a loser so who is the benefactor from our Labours? as so far everybody claims to be losing apart from the middle east, Japan, and a few silent Countries maybe Switzerland, Sweden, even Norway, at least it controls immigration too those Countries so why is this Country the one of choice maybe we are a soft touch, with successive weak Governments, to scared to say boo to a goose, if ever a revolution was needed we must hold the number one position. :o :(

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Looking back on what I did in 1963 makes me feel good all over my body!


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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is Romania a net contributor ? if not why did we let it in ?
strange way to run a club


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 Post subject: Re: The Next EU Influx.
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And we will likely have to build on green belt to house them.

How difficult is it to state that we have no more social housing and we are not going to build on green belt. If you come to the UK you need funding and housing pre-arranged.

Arrive at Heathrow or Dover with just a suitcase to your name and your made for life here :evil:

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