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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:01 am 
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What I find amusing now is that UKIP and now the SNP are leaning towards the Tories rather than Labour. Just been reported that Milliband is furious with the SNP :lol:

I'm thinking that Labour's antics are still firmly in peoples minds.

I'm still voting UKIP but the Tories have pulled us out of Labours hole and realisticly should be given another 5 years IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:04 am 
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I had a visit from a so-called Conservative canvaser yesterday. I say so-called because the Conservative Party these days has nothing to do with conserving anything – it has become another Fascist/Marxist wolf in a sheep's clothing, along with the Libs, Labs, Nationalists, Greens, etc.

The opening shot of the canvaser was to remind me that there is an election pending next month. I replied by saying, “I don't care what you have to say, I'm not interested, and I won't believe a word you say to try and convince me to vote for any of the LibLabCon”. Now this is the interesting thing; the canvaser replied by saying, “that is the overwhelming response from the vast majority of people I approach”. Which if true, does place huge question marks over the value and accuracy of opinion polls.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:17 am 
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I can't see this quote from UKIP Daily going down too well with the LibLabGreenNationalistCON:
http://ukipdaily.com/socialism-tested-classroom/

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An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.”

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.  It could not be any simpler than that.

Conclusions
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:39 pm 
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Westonman wrote:
I can't see this quote from UKIP Daily going down too well with the LibLabGreenNationalistCON:
http://ukipdaily.com/socialism-tested-classroom/

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An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.”

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.  It could not be any simpler than that.

Conclusions
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.


We are already a long way down that path.

Benefits are so high (and I don't just mean JSA but housing benefit, child allowance some disability benefit) that people have little incentive to work. Tax credits only give people the incentive to do as little as possible to collect them.

Hence the influx of the Eastern's who will do it and still see the return as much better than they could back in the homeland.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:51 pm 
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That is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:17 pm 
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geezer466 wrote:
We are already a long way down that path.
Not only are we a long way down that path, we have long since passed the point of no return. Literally, apart from a miracle, I suspect there is no way back for Britain now. The traitors have done their work well, they have succeeded in putting the majority of us to sleep. We continue to elect the traitors; we have imbibed their lies whilst hoping in vain that 'they' are not as bad as their actions and words declare them to be. Now we are ripe for the sickle to harvest us. 'They' talk of fairness, justice, and liberality whilst tightening the noose around our necks. Everything the LibLabGreenNatsCON do and say further restricts our natural freedoms – and still we vote for the political puppets of the faceless globalist bankers and corporatists. I think we are soon to receive what we have unwittingly voted for over the last 40 years or so.

We now have a military that is a shadow of its former strength, a police force that has the appearance of a militia and a willingness to behave according to appearances. Officialdom now believes and behaves as though it has unrestricted powers, and applies the Common Purpose doctrine of working beyond authority.

The justice system has been broken and now favours the rich, the established, and increasingly is biased towards the corrupt; I say this because there are far too many instances where police investigations have been stopped and the evidence lost or destroyed for these cases to be an accident or oversight. Only the dead have evidence revealed of their evil deeds.

Public services and duties have been farmed out to private corporations; responsibilities such as prisons are now run 'for profit' by unaccountable corporations. Private corporations such as Capita, G4S, SERCO, SODEXO, and others, now carry out the duties that elected politicians were once expected to oversee and manage.

The closer we examine the sphere of politics the clearer it becomes that politicians of the LibLabGreenNatsCON are doing less and less for the benefit of the British people; at the same time officialdom becomes increasingly dictatorial and less accountable to the electorate.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:54 pm 
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Don't ask me how, but Serco seem to get the contracts for most of our government jobs including prisoner transfers, (many escapes) and now they have been responsible for hospital sterilisation, (instruments have been returned containing human tissue and blood!!!)
Who are these incompetent wankers?
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:34 pm 
''The justice system has been broken and now favours the rich, the established, and increasingly is biased towards the corrupt; I say this because there are far too many instances where police investigations have been stopped and the evidence lost or destroyed for these cases to be an accident or oversight. Only the dead have evidence revealed of their evil deeds.

Public services and duties have been farmed out to private corporations; responsibilities such as prisons are now run 'for profit' by unaccountable corporations. Private corporations such as Capita, G4S, SERCO, SODEXO, and others, now carry out the duties that elected politicians were once expected to oversee and manage.

The closer we examine the sphere of politics the clearer it becomes that politicians of the LibLabGreenNatsCON are doing less and less for the benefit of the British people; at the same time officialdom becomes increasingly dictatorial and less accountable to the electorate.''




Brilliant points there , I recommend a good read called ''A brief history of neoliberalism'' by a U.S based English academic called David Harvey, it charts the roots and progress of the biggest self serving scam ever served up on the global populace.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
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The cleverest thing is that people think the extremists are "moderates" - and they think the moderates are "extremists". How did that happen?


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2015
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:50 pm 
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Jon wrote:
The cleverest thing is that people think the extremists are "moderates" - and they think the moderates are "extremists". How did that happen?
Too true Jon.

We have been deliberately subjected to political deceit, lies, fraud, gross mismanagement, treason, and blasted with all manor of corruption so that all normality has been inverted. Inverted to the point that evil is now declared good, and good is declared evil. The just are persecuted, whilst the wicked are rewarded.

There is no sign of any hope coming from the political sphere. They are all committed to the continuing inversion of normality and the disregarding of morality. The LibLabCON and all their satellite sound-alikes have thrown overboard any and all allegiance to Christian-based morality. In fact, the LibLabCON and their colleagues in the justice system will gladly oversee the criminalisation of anybody who dares to raise a Christian voice, however mild that voice may be. As this report makes very clear http://www.christianconcern.com/our-con ... s-tribunal

As I said previously; only a miracle of God's grace can save us now. Sadly, even high profile church leaders today don't give any evidence of understanding the desperate situation we are in. We live in a time when even the mention of God's grace on a public forum is likely to result in a severe backlash of hypercritical unbelief.

As if to underline the truth in that last paragraph of mine; the mere posting of such opinions in the public domain today is very likely to result in political denouncements of insanity and extremism on my part, and against anybody who shares my views. It is very interesting to see how the truth has the ability to inspire high degrees of anger from certain quarters, especially from political quarters. And yet there is no sense of shame exhibited by those who legislate in favour of evil and wickedness.


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