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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:30 am 
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Didn't Rolf do the little drummer boy ?

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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
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As the door of his cell slams shut behind him,the lights go out,Rolf puts his head in is hands and begins to cry,then behind him a voice sings "do you think i would leave you crying when there's room in my bunk for two" ..


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:52 pm 
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I met Rolf Harris a couple of times and he was not as relaxed as he had always appeared on T.V. in the early days. He only became happier when he began entertaining and singing to his fans waiting to see him. He changed from a serious person to the Rolf Harris we had once known. I am finding it difficult to take in everything that has happened recently and have read that many others feel the same. It has all come as a shock really.


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I think the whole nation is in shock. He was a big part of all our lives over so many years, such a talented man and great all round entertainer. Maybe there were two Rolf Harrises.


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:40 pm 
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Here are the judges sentencing remarks.

Not easy reading in some parts and makes the sentence more understandable. It seems it was a bit more than the off bum grope.

Bear in mind though there was no independent witnesses beyond those abused (even though at least 2 of the offences were supposed to have occurred in public arena's and around people) and who are positioning themselves to get at his £11Million estate.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ ... arris1.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
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Jon wrote:
I think the whole nation is in shock. He was a big part of all our lives over so many years, such a talented man and great all round entertainer. Maybe there were two Rolf Harrises.


I remember how my late daughter just loved watching him painting, using a huge paintbrush, starting off with a few daubs of paint but ending up with amazing characters. After each programme, she was inspired to paint pictures of her own.


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
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When I met Rolf Harris in Windsor when there were celebrations for the Queen's birthday one year, he told me he remembered my song which was being held onto for possible use on the programme Animal Hospital.The song had first been publicly performed in a local charity show and one guest performer had dressed up to look like Rolf Harris and sung Two Little Boys. Now, I don't know what to think about these memories. They seem like good times gone bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:51 pm 
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geezer466 wrote:
Here are the judges sentencing remarks.

Not easy reading in some parts and makes the sentence more understandable. It seems it was a bit more than the off bum grope.

Bear in mind though there was no independent witnesses beyond those abused (even though at least 2 of the offences were supposed to have occurred in public arena's and around people) and who are positioning themselves to get at his £11Million estate.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ ... arris1.pdf


Whoa! Thanks for posting this Geezer: I just read that document and it was tough going. From a point of view of not wanting to think he was guilty, to now asking myself what else did he do to poor 'C' during those decades

Its up to others to decide compensation, and I have my own views about whether a one off grope (however wrong) could lead to the necessity for a payout. But again, 'C's life has seemingly been ruined by the sustained assaults she faced as a kid.

I was hoping that Rolf - in some bizarre way - had fallen in love with the girl. OK, that would be odd, but if he really cared for her, perhaps it would make the whole situation less disgusting. But from reading this brief summary, he just looks like a sordid sex offender with his own sexual gratification as the main driver for his actions, and with no thought for C at all

So very sad :(


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:10 pm 
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geezer466 wrote:
Here are the judges sentencing remarks.

Not easy reading in some parts and makes the sentence more understandable. It seems it was a bit more than the off bum grope.

Bear in mind though there was no independent witnesses beyond those abused (even though at least 2 of the offences were supposed to have occurred in public arena's and around people) and who are positioning themselves to get at his £11Million estate.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ ... arris1.pdf


Whoa! Thanks for posting this Geezer: I just read that document and it was tough going. From a point of view of not wanting to think he was guilty, to now asking myself what else did he do to poor 'C' during those decades

Its up to others to decide compensation, and I have my own views about whether a one off grope (however wrong) could lead to the necessity for a payout. But again, 'C's life has seemingly been ruined by the sustained assaults she faced as a kid.

I was hoping that Rolf - in some bizarre way - had fallen in love with the girl. OK, that would be odd, but if he really cared for her, perhaps it would make the whole situation less disgusting. But from reading this brief summary, he just looks like a sordid sex offender with his own sexual gratification as the main driver for his actions, and with no thought for C at all

So very sad :(


Bindi's friend 'C' Was very much the most difficult charge. There is no doubt that Harris had long term relationship with the girl which continued until she was 32 years of age. The question is did it start when she was 13 as the girl asserted or 18 as Harris claimed. My suspicion is that it probably developed over a period of time when she was a teenager. As the girl continued the relationship with Harris for over a decade there must have been a degree of consent so the question then becomes did sexual contact occur before the girl was 16. This the tricky point and which I would want to hear all the evidence presented in court and not just the bits that appeared in the press and the Judges summing up before making a decision

Clearly the jury in this trial did not share my views but they were out for quite a long time (over 37 hours) so I assume it was not an open and shut agreement of guilt. Given the time considering the verdict I am wondering what made them eventually all decide to convict him unanimously on all counts particularly when one of the accusers looks to be suspect.

Bindi's friend was a woman scorned, from what I have managed to pick up in the press from the limited reporting Harris ended the relationship against her wishes and the defence asserted that some 'threats' were made. She also asserted that the abuse turned her to alcoholism where it seems more plausible it was the acrimonious split. I find it odd that if Harris was abusing her from age 13 why she never spoke up to her parents in all that time and why she entered into a relationship with his when she did. Even returning to his house time after time.

I notice you didn't mention Tonya Lee. My assertion is she had already gone public selling her story and making claims in the press before the trial. This was clearly prejudicial to the case and doubt must be raised about her motivation which appears to be driven by a desire for financial gain. No other witnesses to an assault that was supposed to have taken place in a public place. Decidedly not proven in my opinion but of course added smoke to the mix.


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 Post subject: Re: Rolf Harris
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:28 pm 
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I saw that link somewhere else but the person who gave it warned that it was difficult reading and so maybe I am not the only one avoiding reading for the moment. Could I just ask, therefore, if there was evidence to support what is in the document or was the sentence based on the victim's word? (or even the handwritten letter). Thanks.


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