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I am no supporter of JM. And like Geezer, I will not vote for anybody that is remotely connected with, or supportive of terrorism. Neither am I convinced that the likes of Cameron, Blair, Brown, etc. are as innocent of supporting terror as they would have us believe they are.

But my question was; is JM really being controversial for criticising the bankers and the City of London as the DM claims he is? The follow-on question is; by claiming that JM is controversial for highlighting the corruption within the City of London, is the DM, and other MSM, supportive of a globalist elite driven by the apparently corrupt and highly influential international banking fraternity?

I think that JM is absolutely right to criticise the City of London and the banking fraternity. I also believe he would do us all a great service if only he was very much more specific in his criticism of the suspicious world of banking and globalist corporatism. Perhaps JM's criticism of the City of London and the banking fraternity is not fully based on a true and in-depth understanding of the corruption within the globalist banking fraternity. Perhaps JM's dislike and distrust is simply based on a natural hatred by socialists/communists for anybody who is able to earn their own way in the world – irrespective of whether there is corruption or not.

I would like to know what JM's response is to the suggestion that HM Treasury should re-issue the interest-free Bradbury Pound. Which is not the same as advocating that the BoE print more money at interest, under the guise of a people's Quantitative Easing.

Author:	Westonman [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:48 am ]
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The DM claims that John McDonnell made “CONTRAVERSIAL REMARKS” in a You Tube video http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -left.html Quote: Labour's new shadow chancellor John McDonnell believes there is a secretive network of bankers and politicians responsible for spreading 'debts, destruction and death' around the world, a new video shows. In a YouTube interview posted online, Mr McDonnell claims Britain is one of the 'key players' in the global 'war machine' - making profits from conflicts around the world in order to 'exploit' poor countries to seize their natural resources. He also describes the recession as a 'real opportunity' to introduce socialism, claims Britain is guilty of 'neo-colonialism', and calls for Tony Blair to be arrested and put on trial for war crimes. Mr McDonnell made the controversial remarks in a 2013 interview with the socialist YouTube star known as 'The artist taxi driver'. Here is the You Tube video where JM links the City of London (bankers) with an international war machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppEixLyaR40 Is JM really being “controversial” when he links the international big-boy bankers with globalist corruption as the DM claims, or is the DM really a voice-piece for the City of London and the globalist elite? I think JM could have said a lot more about the corrupt banking world, a banking system that charges interest on money it doesn't have – a fiat money pyramid system of corruption. The DM could do a lot to uncover the corruption in the international banking system by explaining to the public in simple language just how the fiat money banking system really works – and naming those who are making all the obscene profits. The DM, along with most of the mainstream media (MSM), does seem to be in a bit of a froth over the change of Labour's leadership. Are the MSM getting their directives from the globalist banking/political elite?

Author:	geezer466 [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:44 pm ]
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Well yes. McDonnell is often misquoted or quoted out of context or completely misunderstood. The Public are not ready yet to be offered 'the red pill'. The chap is an excellent local MP with ideas which should be put with a lot if explanation to a wider audience. Shame though as I have a red line and that includes not supporting MP's who support known terrorists who given the chance would have not have hesitated to shoot me or my friends in times past. Do I misunderstand his intentions inviting Adams and McGuinness into Parliament and being overly friendly before the Good Friday agreement or was it a precursor which allowed that agreement to flow. Some say he was ahead of the curve in the peace process others that he cosied up to known terrorists. People have to make their own minds up....

Author:	Jon [ Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:32 pm ]
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A lot of people across the political spectrum are coming to variations on that conclusion.

Author:	geezer466 [ Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:19 pm ]
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Just noticed he is on QT tonight and has apologised for his comments about honouring IRA terrorists....

Author:	Jon [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:17 am ]
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JM on the telly... photos/showphoto.php?photo=2970&title=john-mcdonnell-on-bbc1-question-time&cat=586

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Author:	Kremmen [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:30 am ]
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What goes around comes around. Corbyn is most definitely the loony left and McDonnell is a cohort along with Abbott and Livingstone and no doubt a few others. It wouldn't surprise me to see some defections to the Liberals.

Author:	Westonman [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:01 am ]
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I am no supporter of JM. And like Geezer, I will not vote for anybody that is remotely connected with, or supportive of terrorism. Neither am I convinced that the likes of Cameron, Blair, Brown, etc. are as innocent of supporting terror as they would have us believe they are. But my question was; is JM really being controversial for criticising the bankers and the City of London as the DM claims he is? The follow-on question is; by claiming that JM is controversial for highlighting the corruption within the City of London, is the DM, and other MSM, supportive of a globalist elite driven by the apparently corrupt and highly influential international banking fraternity? I think that JM is absolutely right to criticise the City of London and the banking fraternity. I also believe he would do us all a great service if only he was very much more specific in his criticism of the suspicious world of banking and globalist corporatism. Perhaps JM's criticism of the City of London and the banking fraternity is not fully based on a true and in-depth understanding of the corruption within the globalist banking fraternity. Perhaps JM's dislike and distrust is simply based on a natural hatred by socialists/communists for anybody who is able to earn their own way in the world – irrespective of whether there is corruption or not. I would like to know what JM's response is to the suggestion that HM Treasury should re-issue the interest-free Bradbury Pound. Which is not the same as advocating that the BoE print more money at interest, under the guise of a people's Quantitative Easing.

Author:	geezer466 [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:09 pm ]
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Westonman wrote: I am no supporter of JM. And like Geezer, I will not vote for anybody that is remotely connected with, or supportive of terrorism. Neither am I convinced that the likes of Cameron, Blair, Brown, etc. are as innocent of supporting terror as they would have us believe they are. But my question was; is JM really being controversial for criticising the bankers and the City of London as the DM claims he is? The follow-on question is; by claiming that JM is controversial for highlighting the corruption within the City of London, is the DM, and other MSM, supportive of a globalist elite driven by the apparently corrupt and highly influential international banking fraternity? I think that JM is absolutely right to criticise the City of London and the banking fraternity. I also believe he would do us all a great service if only he was very much more specific in his criticism of the suspicious world of banking and globalist corporatism. Perhaps JM's criticism of the City of London and the banking fraternity is not fully based on a true and in-depth understanding of the corruption within the globalist banking fraternity. Perhaps JM's dislike and distrust is simply based on a natural hatred by socialists/communists for anybody who is able to earn their own way in the world – irrespective of whether there is corruption or not. I would like to know what JM's response is to the suggestion that HM Treasury should re-issue the interest-free Bradbury Pound. Which is not the same as advocating that the BoE print more money at interest, under the guise of a people's Quantitative Easing. As I said the British public are not yet ready for the 'red pill'. Is not the whole of the UK banking/credit system already supported by a notional Bradbury pound? When the Government stepped in to bail out RBS truckfulls of £50 notes never crossed London from one bank to the other they simply pushed a key on a computer created the bailout and underwrote it with forward tax revenue from you know whom. The UK has no immediate store of wealth beyond the promise to pay by generations of taxpayers to come.

Author:	Kremmen [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:28 am ]
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I worry about his Trident rants. I liken it to a burglar who has 2 houses to choose. No1 has a known loaded gun ready, No2 doesn't. Who is he going to rob ?

Author:	Jon [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:25 pm ]
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I tbought unilateral disarmament went out of fashion by the 90s.

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