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Cameron under pressure to get off the beach and get a grip on the crisis in Iraq as minister Mark Simmonds becomes second Tory in a week to resign from Foreign Office

Africa minister Mark Simmonds stepped down from the Foreign Office today
It comes just a week after Baroness Warsi resigned in protest over Gaza
New Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond leading the Government response
Prime Minister David Cameron remains on holiday in Portugal until mid-week
Deputy PM Nick Clegg and Home Secretary Theresa May also on holiday
Cameron is facing growing calls to join military action against ISIS forces
Tornado fighter jets have been sent to the region, but only to help aid effort
Boris Johnson said the Prime Minister's 'instinct' to help was right
London Mayor said he was 'certain' the time was right to join US airstrikes
Comes after MPs call for Cameron to recall parliament over growing crisis
RAF carried out first humanitarian air drop over Mount Sinjar on Saturday
But a second drop had to be aborted last night over safety fears of refugees
Former Army chief Lord Dannat says troops may be needed on the ground

Author:	Rich Kid [ Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Isn't it about time Dave got off the beach and showed some leadership? IS fanatics are advancing killing innocent civilians in the most barbaric way yet what do we hear from Dave - nothing! Obama isn't much better, out there playing golf and ordering a few fighter aircraft to bomb the IS. At a worrying time in the Middle east when there seems to be crisis after crisis occuring we seem to have some of the weakest indecisive political leaders imaginable just when we need the opposite. Much of this stems from Bush & Blair's Iraqi adventures that cost so many lives and for what? They have got a lot to answer for. Quote: Cameron under pressure to get off the beach and get a grip on the crisis in Iraq as minister Mark Simmonds becomes second Tory in a week to resign from Foreign Office Africa minister Mark Simmonds stepped down from the Foreign Office today It comes just a week after Baroness Warsi resigned in protest over Gaza New Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond leading the Government response Prime Minister David Cameron remains on holiday in Portugal until mid-week Deputy PM Nick Clegg and Home Secretary Theresa May also on holiday Cameron is facing growing calls to join military action against ISIS forces Tornado fighter jets have been sent to the region, but only to help aid effort Boris Johnson said the Prime Minister's 'instinct' to help was right London Mayor said he was 'certain' the time was right to join US airstrikes Comes after MPs call for Cameron to recall parliament over growing crisis RAF carried out first humanitarian air drop over Mount Sinjar on Saturday But a second drop had to be aborted last night over safety fears of refugees Former Army chief Lord Dannat says troops may be needed on the ground http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nnatt.html

Author:	geezer466 [ Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Simmonds is on record saying he resigned because he couldn't get his nose close enough to the expenses trough. What makes you think it is our job to sort it out? Previous incursions into Iraq and Afghanistan, time has proved to be a huge success for the UK, all them livers lost for what exactly? If Isis ever threaten these shores then I am all for us getting involved but for far to long we have played world policeman. It there is something going on in Iraq/Syria which needs sorting out then let someone else step up. We have done our bit well over and above the call.....

Author:	Father Ted [ Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
The Finns or Norwegians never get involved in this sort of B.S and they don't seem too badly off without it, high time the U.K stopped being Uncle Sam's punk.

Author:	Rich Kid [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:24 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
It seems to me that Saudi Arabia who support Sunni extremists (on the tacit agreement that they don't operate in Saudi Arabia) and are supposedly friends of the US, seem to do nothing. They buy enormous amounts of military hardware from the US, have a trained army yet we never hear of them actually fighting extremists such as IS. Let's not forget the fact that most of the 9/11 hi-jackers were Saudi and Bin Laden himself was a Saudi. Very strange, it looks as though they're playing both sides. It's time the US woke up and asked more from the Saudi's if their relationship is to continue.

Author:	Jon [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Glad I'm not a PM. I'm torn on this, between 'none of our business' and 'why aren't we doing everything humanly possible to blast IS off the face of the earth'.

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Author:	Kremmen [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Sounds like if Boris was PM we'd be bombing them

Author:	Westonman [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:35 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Are we seeing the effect of unseen forces at work in the Middle East? How is it that a well equipped Iraqi military, courtesy of the USA, is apparently in full flight from a rag-tag assortment of Islamic barbarians? Why are other militarily well equipped Middle East nations unwilling, or unable to stop these barbaric terrorists in their tracks? Why is it that so many Middle East nations who are so willing to condemn Israel, for seriously provoked 'violence' against terrorists, remain so quiet when Islamic terrorists are on the open rampage killing anyone as only the blood thirsty and apparently demonic-crazed are capable of? Let us not forget that it isn't long ago when Cameron was attempting to persuade Parliament that Britain should provide military aid to the terrorists fighting President Assad's forces in Syria, the very same terrorists that are currently on a blood-letting rampage across much of the Middle East. Does this article http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24022 offer any insight into what may be really going on?

Author:	Jon [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Apparently there's a widespread belief in Lebanon that IS is the creation of the Americans. Interesting theory.

Author:	Rich Kid [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Jon wrote: Apparently there's a widespread belief in Lebanon that IS is the creation of the Americans. Interesting theory. I can't see it myself. Why would the US create IS, and how on earth would they control it?

Author:	Jon [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Fighting IS Fanatics - Where is the leadership?
Apparently some very powerful people have a lot to gain from instability and conflict.

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