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 Post subject: Google Censorship
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:22 pm 
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Court ruling invites Google as censor

To have a private company make decisions that affect the media via an opaque process is to invite a legal, ethical and practical disaster. By Alistair Fairweather.

Which is more important to you, your right to freedom of speech or your right to privacy? Would you rather have the ability to control what is said about you or the ability to speak openly about contentious subjects? A fascinating collision between these rights is currently under way in the European Union (EU).

On 13 May, the European court of justice (ECJ), the highest court in the EU, ruled in favour of Costeja González and against Google. González asked the search engine giant to remove some unflattering links from the results that appeared when anyone searched for his name. Google refused, and so he took the company to court.

I've noticed that since the court ruling Google.co.uk has definitely deleted some postings that were previously available, has anyone else noticed this?
I now use Google.com which is protected by the US Constitution and the right to freedom of speech. It's ironic that in a country like ours, the home of Magna Carta and free speech we are now being gradually censored by the EU and Leveson!
The rewriting of history (by omission) is now lawful - Orwell was right in so many ways
The law of libel is now being usurped by censorship.

http://www.techcentral.co.za/court-ruli ... sor/49345/


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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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I haven't noticed but I did notice that every time I tried using google.com it automatically changed to google.co.uk. However, I heard Robert Peston say there are three letters you can add after google.com to stop it doing that but I've forgotten what they are.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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Jon wrote:
I haven't noticed but I did notice that every time I tried using google.com it automatically changed to google.co.uk. However, I heard Robert Peston say there are three letters you can add after google.com to stop it doing that but I've forgotten what they are.


Google it :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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Like it or lump it google has to apply local judgements...

They are simply the roadmap not the information hosting.

If the Euro judges got it wrong them fool them. People who need to get the low down and dirty on Mr A OR B will learn how to circumvent the so called ban which is easily done anyway.

In the UK google UK will naturally open but if you want google universal just enter google.com in the search box.

That said no one gets completely untainted results anyway. Google and other web firms like Amazon know what you have been browsing and will tailor their SERP and adverts to you accordingly. Unless you use TOR (easy enough to set up) you are only seeing what they want you to see.

Far more weight should be given in informing young people about what the are putting into their social media profiles these days. These things also remain searchable many years later. Some employers are already demanding as a condition of employment changes to privacy settings to allow them to access such material.

That picture you posted to facebook all those years ago with the traffic cone on your head getting dragged into the police van after a good night out on the town may have been funny at the time but could very well come back and bite your arse later in your life.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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Here is another example of a corporation in the shape of Microsoft acting as a self-appointed policeman:
https://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ip ... -takedown/

ATVOD, the policing 'authority' for on-demand videos is also a Limited company. This page shows ATVOD's address: http://www.atvod.co.uk/news-consultations/recruitment
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The Authority for Television On Demand Ltd
27 Sheet Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1BN


And we shouldn't forget that Capita polices the TV License.

One day soon we may see such corporations as G4S and SERCO policing our streets instead of the standard British Bobby.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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Westonman wrote:
Here is another example of a corporation in the shape of Microsoft acting as a self-appointed policeman:
https://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ip ... -takedown/

ATVOD, the policing 'authority' for on-demand videos is also a Limited company. This page shows ATVOD's address: http://www.atvod.co.uk/news-consultations/recruitment
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The Authority for Television On Demand Ltd
27 Sheet Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1BN


And we shouldn't forget that Capita polices the TV License.

One day soon we may see such corporations as G4S and SERCO policing our streets instead of the standard British Bobby.


I doubt it. They may want to happen but the management and the professionalism in these public sector PRIVATE contractors leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.

2 words into our old friend google and it won't hide any results... Op Olympics.....


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 Post subject: Re: Google Censorship
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I doubt it. They may want to happen but the management and the professionalism in these public sector PRIVATE contractors leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.

2 words into our old friend google and it won't hide any results... Op Olympics.....
Failure presents no obstacle when it comes to politics, public appointments, and Government contracts.

G4S have been cleared to bid for further Government contracts. So much for failure at the 2012 Olympics. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26958650

MPs blatantly get it wrong on numerous occasions, and a simple apology makes everything O.K.

The bankers commit fraud on a massive scale, but nobody is brought to account for their crimes; instead the taxpayer is compelled to bail them out – or a bail-in at the next 'crisis'.

Lin Homer has a string of failures to her credit, now she is head of HMRC.
Here is a brief summary of Homer's failures; and she is Common Purpose trained:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -HMRC.html

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Born in Norfolk, Ms Homer studied law at University College London, before working at Reading Council for two years then Hertfordshire Council, where over a period of 15 years, she rose to the position of Director of Corporate Services.
This proved the springboard for her first major town hall job, in 1998, as chief executive of Suffolk Council.
Just four years later, the married mother of three daughters was parachuted into the same post at Birmingham City Council, on a jaw-dropping £174,000-year.
In 2005 she was accused of throwing ‘the rule book out of the window’ in a major postal votes scandal in Birmingham that ended up before the courts.
Election judge Richard Mawrey said fraud in the city ‘would have disgraced a banana republic’. He described Mrs Homer’s decision to allow postal ballot papers to be transported to the count in shopping bags as ‘the direst folly’.
But later that year she was chosen by the Home Office to run what was then called the Immigration and Nationality Directorate – this time on £200,000, plus bonuses.
Already in chaos, it was on her watch in 2006 that we learned of the mistaken release of 1,000 foreign criminals.
It later emerged some 450,000 asylum cases had not been dealt with but left in boxes at the Home Office.
The new UKBA was meant to clear up the mess, and Mrs Homer became its first chief executive, on an astonishing £208,000 a year.
But among a fresh run of scandals was the revelation that nearly 400 of the 1,000 foreign prisoners were told they could stay in Britain and dozens remained untraced.
Promotion came again in 2011 when she was handed the the post of Permanent Secretary at the Transport Department where she stayed for barely a year before winning her biggest job to date – running HMRC.
Since then she has been criticised for failing to tackle tax avoidance, admitting in November last year that over half of Britain’s biggest 770 firms funnel profits overseas.


Now it appears that HMRC, under Lin Homer's leadership, are to be given the power to access our bank accounts, but first she has to apologise for errors made by HMRC in their calculation of targets:
http://economia.icaew.com/news/july-201 ... tion-error
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HMRC chief executive Lin Homer has apologised for errors made by the Revenue in the calculation of its targets
Last week, it was revealed that a miscalculated baseline target had led to the Revenue falsely reporting it had exceeded targets by £1.9bn. 

Homer faced over three hours of questioning from the Treasury Select Committee today over HMRC’s business plan for the next two years. She said that HMRC “must accept responsibility” for the error and admitted "we aggregated badly."

Homer, accompanied by Ruth Owen, director general of personal tax and Jim Harra, director general of business tax at HMRC, was grilled by the committee on HMRC’s proposed new direct debt recovery powers (DDR).

The powers, announced in this year’s Budget, and which are subject to a consultation closing at the end of this month will allow HMRC to seize debt from individual bank accounts.


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