Boris Positions Himself.

Kremmen · **Posted:** Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:45 am

Also Boris now will have HS2 running right through his constituency. Locals reckons he will need to back the anti-HS2 campaign or lose out.

Rich Kid · **Joined:** Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:31 pm **Posts:** 663

So surprise surprise, Boris has been selected ...

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Boris Johnson selected for Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29173705

Westonman · **Joined:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:46 am **Posts:** 1806

Kremmen wrote:

Also Boris now will have HS2 running right through his constituency. Locals reckons he will need to back the anti-HS2 campaign or lose out.

I believe Boris is playing a game of deceit with us. He talks of renegotiating the UK's membership of the EU, while all the time he is fully aware that from the 1st of November 2014 any renegotiation or plans to leave the EU will be subject to Qualified Majority Voting (QMV) of EU member representatives. See item 43: “Withdrawal of a member state” in the list below.

Boris' anti-car and transport policies come directly from the EU – and he knows it. Item 42: “Transport” in the list below confirms that Boris' transport policy will also be subject to the EU's QMV from the 1st November 2014.

According to Wikipedia, UKIP claim the HS2 project is an EU policy.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2

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The UK Independence Party (UKIP), which is fully opposed nationally and locally to the proposed HS2 plans. UKIP says there is no business case, no environment case and no money to pay for it.[181] UKIP has been campaigning against HS2 as it is also part of the EU's Trans-European Transport Network (TEN-T) Policy. It had previously proposed a much larger and more expensive three-line high-speed network running from London to Newcastle (and on to Scotland), London to Bristol (and on to Wales) and London to Birmingham along with upgrading several other sections of the WCML and Scottish rail to high speed in its 2010 manifesto

And HS2 is part of any transport policy, and is subject to the EU's QMV from the 1st November 2014. So it will be interesting to hear what Boris has to say about HS2. Will he stand against the EU; will he offer jumbled empty promises; or will he simply say nothing and hope that we are all too busy watching dumbed down TV 'entertainment'?

Note: In the list of policy areas listed below “Nice” refers to the Treaty of Nice; and “Lisbon” refers to the Lisbon Treaty.

The list below is taken from here: http://iainmckie.co.uk/uk-parliament-co ... -eu-rules/

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On the 1st November 2014 the right of Parliament to legislate over us in 43 areas, the important ones, will be removed and be made subject to approval. They call it QMV, Qualified Majority Voting.
Each member State will lose it right of Veto over these areas, so Cameron’s idea of negotiation to recover any areas goes out the window at the same time.

The following areas of competence will switch from requiring unanimous approval of all member states to qualified majority voting only:

The 43 Initiatives of the High Representative for Foreign Affairs that take – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV

1: Administrative co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
2: Asylum – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
3: Border controls – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
4: Citizens' initiative regulations – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
5: Civil protection – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
6: Committee of the Regions – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
7: Common defence policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
8: Crime prevention incentives – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
9: Criminal judicial co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
10: Criminal law – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
11: Culture – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
12: Diplomatic & Consular protection – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
13: Economic & Social Committee – Nice: QMV Lisbon: QMV
14: Emergency international aid – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
15: Energy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
16: EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
17: Eurojust – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
18: European Central Bank – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
19: European Court of Justice – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
20: Europol – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
21: Eurozone external representation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
22: Foreign Affairs High Representative election – Lisbon: QMV
23: Freedom of movement for workers – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
24: Freedom to establish a business – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon QMV
25: Freedom, security, justice, co-operation & evaluation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
26: Funding the Common Foreign & Security Policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
27: General economic interest services – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
28: Humanitarian aid – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
29: Immigration – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
30: Intellectual property – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
31: Organisation of the Council of the EU – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
32: Police co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
33: President of the European Council election – Lisbon: QMV
34: Response to natural disasters & terrorism – Lisbon: QMV
35: Rules concerning the Armaments Agency – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
36: Self-employment access rights – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
37: Social Security Unanimity – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
38: Space – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
39: Sport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
40: Structural & Cohension Funds – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
41: Tourism – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
42: Transport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
43: Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV

Clause 4 of Article 16 of this document defines QMV:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... U%20Treaty.

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Article 16
1.   The Council shall, jointly with the European Parliament, exercise legislative and budgetary functions. It shall carry out policy-making and coordinating functions as laid down in the Treaties.
2.   The Council shall consist of a representative of each Member State at ministerial level, who may commit the government of the Member State in question and cast its vote.
3.   The Council shall act by a qualified majority except where the Treaties provide otherwise.
4.   As from 1 November 2014, a qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council, comprising at least fifteen of them and representing Member States comprising at least 65 % of the population of the Union.
A blocking minority must include at least four Council members, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained.
The other arrangements governing the qualified majority are laid down in Article 238(2) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5.   The transitional provisions relating to the definition of the qualified majority which shall be applicable until 31 October 2014 and those which shall be applicable from 1 November 2014 to 31 March 2017 are laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions.
6.   The Council shall meet in different configurations, the list of which shall be adopted in accordance with Article 236 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
The General Affairs Council shall ensure consistency in the work of the different Council configurations. It shall prepare and ensure the follow-up to meetings of the European Council, in liaison with the President of the European Council and the Commission.
The Foreign Affairs Council shall elaborate the Union’s external action on the basis of strategic guidelines laid down by the European Council and ensure that the Union’s action is consistent.
7.   A Committee of Permanent Representatives of the Governments of the Member States shall be responsible for preparing the work of the Council.
8.   The Council shall meet in public when it deliberates and votes on a draft legislative act. To this end, each Council meeting shall be divided into two parts, dealing respectively with deliberations on Union legislative acts and non-legislative activities.
9.   The Presidency of Council configurations, other than that of Foreign Affairs, shall be held by Member State representatives in the Council on the basis of equal rotation, in accordance with the conditions established in accordance with Article 236 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

Kremmen · **Posted:** Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:49 am

No doubt the reason why Cameron has continually delayed a referendum till after this kicks in.

Deceitful bunch in Westminster

Rich Kid · **Joined:** Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:31 pm **Posts:** 663

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43: Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV

Does this mean we cannot simply walk away, it has to be agreed by QMV?

Kremmen · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:28 am

That's the bit I don't get either. It sounds like even if we vote to come out we can't ?

Westonman · **Joined:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:46 am **Posts:** 1806

As I understand the process, the Treaty of Nice comes into full effect from the 1st April 2017. The 1st of November 2014 represents a step change towards the full implementaion of the Treaty of Nice and the QMV rules. Which is probably the reason why Cameron keeps putting off the referendum - until after the 1st April 2017.

Below are some extracts from two blogs that may help – or even further confuse. But then, none of us would expect for anything coming out of the EU to be in plain language.

http://pjcjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05 ... ctive-end/
On the 1st April 2017 the Nice Treaty becomes fully in effect.

[Quote]A brief review of the Treaties confirms the Transitional arrangements which allow, only on specific votes, for the Nice Treaty Provisions to apply from 1st November 2014 until March 2017, hence I imagine PM David Cameron’s determination to delay our referendum beyond that date, tying Britain for ever within the non-democratic, totalitarian and now clearly despotic EU.
For your reference, if anyone interested in the Treaty Articles behind this change, here is the legal bit. http://grahnlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/ ... g-qmv.html[/quote]

Extracts from the legal stuff:
http://grahnlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/ ... g-qmv.html

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The treaty reform process started in December 2000 in Nice, but the voting rules of the Council of the European Union are going to take full effect only in April 2017 – if the Treaty of Lisbon enters into force.

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3. As from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, in cases where, under the Treaties, not all the members of the Council participate in voting, a qualified majority shall be defined as follows:

(a) A qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

A blocking minority must include at least the minimum number of Council members representing more than 35 % of the population of the participating Member States, plus one member, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained;

(b) By way of derogation from point (a), where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.’.

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Protocol on transitional provisions

Protocol (No 36) on transitional provisions is an illustration of treaty reform, which requires unanimous agreement between the member states and ratification by every member state. Three different stages are distinguished.

1) From the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon until 31 October 2014 the current rules on voting remain in force.
2) In principle, the Lisbon Treaty rules on qualified majority voting (QMV) are in effect between 1 November 2014 and 31 March 2017, subject to a request by a member of the Council to apply the old rules.
3) From 1 April 2017 the intended rules of the Lisbon Treaty become operational.

http://grahnlaw.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/205%20TEC

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Article 238 TFEU
(ex Article 205(1) and (2), TEC)

1. Where it is required to act by a simple majority, the Council shall act by a majority of its component members.

2. By way of derogation from Article 16(4) of the Treaty on European Union, as from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council, representing Member States comprising at least 65 % of the population of the Union.

3. As from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, in cases where, under the Treaties, not all the members of the Council participate in voting, a qualified majority shall be defined as follows:

(a) A qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

A blocking minority must include at least the minimum number of Council members representing more than 35 % of the population of the participating Member States, plus one member, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained;

(b) By way of derogation from point (a), where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

4. Abstentions by Members present in person or represented shall not prevent the adoption by the
Council of acts which require unanimity.

In effect, I believe that the UK is well and truly cooked from the 1st November 2014. Treason has not only been committed by UK politicians from the 1950s to this day - it can now be seen to have been committed from the very beginning of the UK's involvement with the EU project. By delaying the referendum until 2017 Cameron will be ensuring there is absolutely NO way back for the UK - no chance of the 'old' voting rules to be called upon.

Westonman · **Joined:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:46 am **Posts:** 1806

I said earlier in this thread that Boris Johnson was looking to declare London a city state, a region of the EU directly responsible to Brussels.

Now we have the BBC reporting that Manchester should become a city state with broad tax raising powers. Phillip Blond, director of ResPublica; is basically recommending that Manchester becomes a city state on the model of London: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-29201541

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Manchester should be given income-tax raising powers and complete control of spending within five years, a centre-right think tank has said.
The proposals, published ahead of the Scottish independence referendum, could form a blueprint for full devolution to English cities, ResPublica said.
Its report proposes devolving power to a Greater Manchester assembly.
Ministers said they wanted to devolve more powers but that creating another tier of government was not the answer.
Phillip Blond, director of ResPublica, said: "For decades we've watched England's cities sliding into decline.
"This is why England needs devolution."

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ResPublica said a Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) with an elected mayor and assembly as in London, should first be given power over property taxes and then income taxes and the right to reinvest savings to increase revenue.

Clegg is also suggesting more devolution across England, while Labour and the Cons are appearing to disagree with him in what seems to be a game of charades:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29155854

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Nick Clegg has said more power must be given to the English regions so they can truly "stand on their own feet".
The deputy prime minister argued such a move would be needed after the Scottish referendum, with new powers promised for Holyrood if there is a No vote.
While the focus in the past decade had been on devolution to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, he said England was "the forgotten part of the puzzle".
Labour called on Mr Clegg to back up his "warm words" with substance.
But the Conservatives said so-called super authorities could "suck power" away from smaller councils and local communities.
UKIP leader Nigel Farage warned England was "being ignored" and said the UK must have a new constitutional settlement whatever the outcome of the Scottish referendum.

It certainly appears as though the breakup of the UK, into regions of the EU, is endorsed by all the political parties.
What do all the political class have against the United Kingdom and its people?
Why do they want to fragment our homeland into relatively small tax-raising authorities with ever-greater control over our lives?

Give any authority tax-raising powers and we can guarantee that those powers will be severely abused. Council tax, property tax, income tax, congestion tax, road tolls, VAT, energy tax, too many children tax, water tax, green space tax, nice views tax, waste tax, pollution taxes, flood risk tax, proximity to facilities tax; the list of possible taxes these new regional authorities could create is endless.

James · **Joined:** Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:25 pm **Posts:** 129

The issue boris faces is if he wins will he deliver English devolution in the following forms:

1) Regional assemblies
2) City statelets like GLA and county councils
3) Devolved English parliament as advocated by John Redwood

Its down to the next government to resolve this and as Euro MP Charles Tannock has advocated the best option is a written constitution brought about by a constitutional convention. Though my heart says yes to Scottish Independence, if the vote goes no and theres devomax, this needs to apply to Wales and Northern Ireland as well.

Moley · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:22 am

Boris Johnson is not the harmless buffoon he would have you believe. He has repeatedly lied and reneged on all number of issues in recent years. The evidence is all over the internet for anyone that cares to research it. Here are just a few examples :

http://insidecroydon.com/2014/08/08/may ... tram-lies/

http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21916385

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014/04 ... es-in-full

Is this really the type of character we want representing our local constituency whilst also acting as part time ( on full time salary ) Mayor of London ?

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