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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:27 am 
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Hi Westonman .. I'm sorry I have deleted the text I posted here. It has occurred to me that I should take steps first to check what happened to the original letter and hopefully find out why I didn't receive a reply. Then I could find a place to post where the details would be more relevant etc ..


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:28 am 
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I really can't understand what possessed the actor Nigel Havers to think popping up on the Today programme to provide a character reference on his aunt and father was a good idea and only makes you suspicious there was some leverage deployed that he felt compelled to do so.

From John Hemming MP blog posted yesterday..

For the first time links the family courts and their secretive nature into this sorry saga..

http://johnhemming.blogspot.co.uk/

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The disappearance of children from Care and the CSA inquiry
I did an interview on BBC world at one yesterday about the general discussion about the abuse of children in the care system. There are many stories about Elm Guest House. However, I have been concentrating on more recent issues. There remain survivors of what has happened in the past. These people have been ignored for many years, but more recently they have been listened to. To me it is very important not only to deal with what happened in the past, but also to look at what is happening today.

A point that has not been looked properly at is the disappearance of children from Care. We had the recent reports from Ireland about the deaths of children being concealed. I believe that this also happened at Haut de la Garenne. To me it seems quite straightforward that if we are sufficiently concerned about money that we should count the money and audit it, we should also count the children and audit what happens to them.

Even today children are disappearing from care for various reasons. Some are trafficked. I find it odd that the government won't modify the SSDA903 return codes in order both to count the numbers of children and the reasons they leave care (normally today reported as - for other reasons), but also to then audit that.

I don't think the problems today are as severe as they were in the 1980s. There are estimates that 1 in 7 of children in care in the 70s and 80s were abused whilst in care. Books such as Forgotten Children look at this in more detail. It does remain, however, that a recent study revealed a continuing high level of abuse in care We also have child sexual exploitation which includes mainly children in care.

The care system is scrutinised through the family courts which remain substantially themselves unaccountable. The government propose putting an erstwhile president of the Family Division who have in part presided over this debacle in charge of the enquiry. In essence she is being asked to mark her and her judicial colleagues' own homework. I personally don't think that is a good idea.

What is worst is that many of the children placed in care need not have been in care. Those in Rochdale who were put in care because of the satanic abuse scandal were then abused purely as a result of state action.

Obviously we need a child protection system. However, really it should be one that does a better job than this.


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The Mail, Telegraph and other papers are all now saying Sloshed Butler is not the judge to chair this enquiry..... With her links to her brother it can now only be a matter of time.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:47 pm 
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Don't understimate the arrogance of these people.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:00 pm 
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There is a book called "If only I had told", which tells of the Satanic abuse scandal that hit the Orkneys in the 90's. The author is Esther W. (she keeps her identity secret because she has since married and started her own family) but at the time she was a member of one of the families involved. She was put in care, and the whole Orkney scandal arose because Social Services believed she was being abused by a brother when she was actually being raped by a worker in the care home, and was too frightened to tell. The whole book is an eye opener, and should be compulsory reading for all of us.


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