Nothing to do with the Alligators chewing the cables then?

Watch the video on this page:
http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/
The global map on the above page also raises huge questions.


British Gas to force customers to have smart meters against their legal right to refuse:
http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/latest-br ... art-meter/

It looks like a micro-wave network to me:
http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/uk-govs-s ... e-of-cash/

I let a meter reader in once a year to read them. At other times they send me an email and I put the readings on their web page. They then bill me.

System works extremely well. Why would I need a smart meter?

If 20 years from now a law has been passed saying I have to have one I will be on ebay looking for a lead box or other ECM to stop it calling home.

Re:- microwave, I'm not sure how efficient microwave would be in a built up area. It's only good in "line of sight"

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According to the project team the smart meters use GPRS 3G via a sim card. The units have 4 bolt holes on the extremities and need no physical connection to the electric supply, just need to be close by. They can then read the current passing through.

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Microwaves frequencies are reckoned to range from 300 MHZ and higher in frequency. As this article explains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave

I understand that the allocation of mobile phone frequencies in the UK are as below:

2G frequency bands in UK:
900 Mhz & 1800 Mhz

3G frequency bands in UK:
900 Mhz & 2100 Mhx

4G frequency bands in UK are currently (and could increase in the number of bands):
800 Mhz & 2600 Mhz & some parts of the 1800 Mhz band not used by 2G.

All the above UK mobile phone 2G, 3G, and 4G frequencies are using higher frequencies than 300 Mhz, and therefore fall within the microwave range of frequencies. With some of the bands exceeding the 'engineering' lower limit of 1Ghz (1000 Mhz) for the definition of microwaves.

A smart meter that is operating on the 3G telephone system is radiating microwaves into and around our homes on a probable 24/7 basis. And since radiation doses are accumulated as a function of energy per unit time, the high sampling rates that near-constant monitoring of domestic electricity, gas, and water will require suggests that our homes could be subjected to very high radiation doses over time.

Even if am completely wrong, the fact that the 'authorities' are not fully explaining what their smart meters actually mean for the health and welfare of the public (backed up with real technical data) does not inspire confidence. We know that the authorities are devious, deceitful, and lie to us because they have done so on many issues in the past. The latest scandal surrounding Levenson and his refusal to consider the phone hacking by 'blue chip' companies and lawyers is another example of high level deceit and dishonesty.

I foresee these things becoming very popular......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2109548/Cellphone-Jammer-Pocket-size-mobile-phone-signal-jammers-big-thing.html

Thanks for the clarification on microwaves

As usual I've only been fed half the story. Those with internal electric meters may suffer more than those of us with external meters then ?

I note the 4G 800mhz band. That's what is going to interfere with Freeview. They reckon that Freeview channels 59 and above are the ones most likely to need filtering.
We are on 26 to 32 so hopefully ...............

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Yes, and no.

Radiating microwave frequencies in an uncontrolled real world situation can, and does, create unpredictable propagation patterns. This situation can be even more unpredictable where there are several radiating sources, such as where each home consumer smart meter is simultaneously pumping out radio frequency (RF) energy. It is not unknown for local conducting material, such as power cables, trunking, shelving, building frames, etc, etc to re-radiate RF power and create a hazard/problem away from the original RF source.

Also understand, that earthing a metal item does not necessarily mean it appears to be fully earthed at microwave radio frequencies, a problem that becomes even more problematic the higher the RF power level involved. An apparently earthed/grounded metal cable can actually have hot-spots of RF energy at various points along its length, due to standing waves. Where standing waves interact they can be subtractive, additive, or any point between the two extremes, depending upon the phases of all interacting standing waves along any conductor.

A microwave oven will produce standing wave hotspots within the earthed box cavity. It is these standing wave hotspots that heat the food. This video provides a simple demonstration of standing wave hotspots within a microwave oven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... FhwTelc5Tg

Standing wave hotspots can appear in any metal conductor or conductive cavity that is subjected to microwave radiation.

Will the installers of smart meters carry out an RF survey of each home to ensure that no unwanted RF hazards are are being created locally? I very much doubt it.

Would there be sufficient experienced staff available to correctly interpret the results from an RF survey of every home in the country? Again, I very much doubt it.

Do the authorities actually care whether their smart meters are possibly causing a health hazard? Probably not – until some clever Dickie produces the undeniable evidence that a smart meter has contributed to a person's ill-health, or even death - then the compensation claim may just concern them a little.

I maintain that the responsibility is on the politicians and the energy firms to positively and unquestionably demonstrate that their smart meters are 100% safe BEFORE they install them in our homes.

It took many decades before the relevant authorities accepted that Asbestos (fibres when inhaled) were dangerous to long term health. At first there was denial after denial in the interests of keeping the floodgates of compensation firmly closed. Those cases which were to make it to court were for years shrouded in secrecy clauses about going public and raising awareness of the issues. All this was done in full knowledge of sitting Governments who knew there was a problem but refused to acknowledge it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos_and_the_law
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Kershaw[/url]

The UK parliament received a report in 1930 saying that asbestos was harmful to health yet did not start to legislate to protect the working population from it till the introduction of the H&S act in 1976. Over the period many hundreds of thousands of people have died in pain and abject agony and continue to do so to this day. The information and evidence of this is in the above wiki links.

Just another reason why we should take what Governments tell us with a very large pinch of salt and why we should be concerned that they choose to spy on us. None of them and I mean none of them are to be trusted as far as you can throw them.

Mobile telephony has been around for what 25 years now, there has been many documented cases which allege the phone signals are hazardous to health. Maybe they are maybe not but in say 20 years from now we find a spike 50 something's succumbing to brain tumours then we will know.

Smart meters work on the same telephony principle and are to benefit one section of society only, the power firms. We should oppose their introduction if only fore the fact to provide continuity of employment for meter readers.

The so called investment in these devices are to reduce employments costs and to a lesser degree combat unlawful electricity abstraction. Nothing more nothing less.