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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:08 pm 
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Assuming this DM report is accurate, who is ultimately responsible? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... areas.html

Here is the opening paragraph of the DM report:
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Jihadi John and his asylum-seeking family have milked the British benefits system for 20 years, the Mail can reveal today.
Housing the Islamic State executioner and his relatives in affluent parts of London has cost taxpayers up to £400,000.


In the quotes below from the DM the red comments in brackets are my additions.

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The Mail investigation can also reveal that:
The family fled Kuwait after the first Gulf War, claiming persecution because they were seen to favour the Iraqi invasion in 1990; (under Conservative Government)
They claimed asylum in the UK and won refugee status in 1996; (under Conservative Government)
Five years later they were made British citizens and then started travelling back to Kuwait; (under Labour Government)
The family have claimed hundreds of thousands of pounds in benefits in Britain since their arrival in the country and lived in homes costing £450 a week;
Emwazi’s father is now back working in Kuwait while the family continues to receive state assistance for the home in Queen’s Park.(under Labour, ConLib Governments)
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Eventually, they settled in a £600,000 flat in upmarket Queen’s Park. The family has lived there for the past eight years (under Labour & ConLib Governments) and the owner told the Mail it is still rented to them.
With a 12-year-old daughter, Hana, they are still believed to be claiming an estimated £7,821 a year in child benefits and child tax credits. (under Labour & ConLib Governments)
That is on top of annual claims of about £23,400 in housing benefit, £678 in council tax support and £5,929 in jobseeker’s allowance.
Their daughter Shayma, 23, is thought to be studying at Brunel University London, for which she is entitled to a grant of £3,387. (under ConLib Government)

The DM report doesn't actually say who is responsible for the taxpayers' funding of this family, but the tone of the report does imply that the Emwazi family are the guilty party. In my opinion, by not identifying the governments in place at the time of this abuse of public money, the DM is being less than transparent with the truth. Maybe the DM is more concerned with stirring up public anger against immigrants than holding the political class to account.

The DM report states:
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Westminster City Council is still paying the rent on the family’s £600,000 flat even though the rules say housing benefit should normally be stopped after 13 weeks.
If the DM is correct about the 'rules', then Westminster Council are as much to blame as as the Conservative, Labour, and ConLib governments.
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MPs said they were horrified that the child of a family given refugee status, citizenship and benefits had returned the favour by orchestrating the murder of two of its citizens.
MPs are horrified? MPs of the LibLabCON have every right to be horrified and ashamed at themselves for permitting this situation to develop over the years.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:25 pm 
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The thing is that their are probably loads of other immigrant families being housed, fed and watered by us and they have no intention of working for a living.

when will our Gov do as 'we' want for a change

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:01 pm 
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I thought this murderer did his evil acts because MI5, MFI, and others had been nasty to him. Now I find its due to policies bought in by those evil Tories, or maybe those thugs in Labour - or even the twisted Lib Dem/Con coalition - or if all else fails, its all down to the monsters at Westminster Council.

I would like to know who is responsible, because it can't be the evil, murderous bastard himself can it?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:35 pm 
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SOT wrote:
I thought this murderer did his evil acts because MI5, MFI, and others had been nasty to him. Now I find its due to policies bought in by those evil Tories, or maybe those thugs in Labour - or even the twisted Lib Dem/Con coalition - or if all else fails, its all down to the monsters at Westminster Council.

I would like to know who is responsible, because it can't be the evil, murderous bastard himself can it?
SOT, the main thrust of the DM report was to do with the cost of housing and supporting the Emwazi family at UK taxpayers' expense over the years since they came to Briton. The quotes from the DM report where I added bracketed comments in red were all to do with the cost of supporting the Emwazi family. The same DM report claims that the parents of Emwazi family had never officially worked all the time they stayed in the UK.

This thread has nothing to do with the reported murderous criminality of Mohammed Emwazi that the general media have been playing up for several days. And it definitely has nothing to do with apportioning blame for Mohammed Emwazi's reported crimes in the Middle East.

My post on this thread was intended to highlight that Conservative, Labour, and the Con-Lib Coalition governments are all equally guilty of wasting UK taxpayer's money supporting the results of their open door uncontrolled immigration policy.

Only today, at PMQs, it is reported that Miliband attacked Cameron over Cameron's failure to reduce immigration. Miliband was a major player in the previous Labour Government, a government that had the same open door policy to immigration as the Cons and Libs do. As we approach the general election all three of these deceitful parties and their leaders will play a game of point-scoring off each other in the hope that they can gain votes at the cost of the 'failures' of each other.

By posting this thread based on the DM report of the UK taxpayer supporting the likes of the Emwazi family, I was highlighting the fact that ALL THREE political parties of deception and fraud, the LibLabCON, are equally guilty of acting AGAINST the interests of the UK taxpayer. ALL three of the LibLabCon willingly and deliberately throw our money away where we would not volunteer to throw it – and ALL three of them continue to blame each other for their own joint policies of deceit and fraud.

I don't know, but it may well be that the the LibLabCon and the establishment are in some way partly responsible for Mohammed Emwazi becoming a murderous butcher. It is possible that his family share some responsibility for it; it may also be partly the responsibility of Mohammed Emwazi's Islamic faith and its teachers. But if Mohammed Emwazi is the murderous butcher he is reported to be – then HE must, and will, take the vast majority of the responsibility for his crimes.

I repeat: The object of this thread was to highlight the deceitfulness of the whole of the LibLabCON, and to indicate that the real crime of misuse of public money is not primarily that of the Amwazi family – but is the direct result of the LibLabCON policy for taking us into the EU against our wishes and implementing the policy of uncontrolled immigration into the UK. And, the DM is just as bad as the LibLabCon because their report does NOT make it clear that the problem is rooted in the LibLabCON and their EU puppeteers.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:07 am 
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I reckon 50% of our taxes are WASTED.
Another 25% is spent on bad things.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:11 am 
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I agree,most of what we send abroad to some countries goes to buying weapons.

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